Post by svenboThe Media? The media didn't abuse anyone, they just reported it. And, they
only reported on the things the Pentagon approved for release. They are
saying that there are alot worse things that happened that they are not
releasing yet.
You contradict yourself you say that the Media is reporting on what the
Pentagon allowed them to release, they you say "They are saying that there
are alot worse things that happened that they are not releasing yet." That
isn't reporting that is speculative and not fact. Reporting facts is one
thing, reporting hearsay that is not substantiated is another. One can
dream up anything they want from the prisoners being placed nude in a tub of
ice to being beaten to death. Your comments are not factual.
Post by svenboSecrets are BAD. Allowing any government or individual to abuse another
human being is WRONG. Most important, saying that the other guy did worse
things is not an acceptable justification.
Once again you contradict yourself. "Secrets are BAD." What secrets? Are
you referring to secrets of abuse of Iraqi prisoners? In your previous
statement you don't seem to think it is a secret you seem to believe that it
has all been put out for publication to the media. I will agree that abuse
of any kind is wrong. But let's face it, a set of pictures showing some
guys in a pyramid nude with a people pointing at them versus a person being
beheaded? Know one doesn't justify the other but one is certainly more of
an extreme. I'm sure the guys in the pyramid were humiliated but they are
most certainly still alive.
Post by svenboIF there had been a military reason for taking extreme actions to recover
intelligence, I might understand, even if I don't condone it. But NO ONE
has said these prisoners had any valuable information. This was torture for
the sake of torture, not any effort to gain intel.
You use the term 'torture' pretty leisurely here, let's look at the
definition for a minute:
1. a. Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or
coercion. b. An instrument or a method for inflicting such pain.
2. Excruciating physical or mental pain; agony: the torture of
waiting in suspense.
3. Something causing severe pain or anguish.
I didn't see anyone in the pictures I saw enduring any severe physical pain,
did you? I didn't see any one enduring excruciating physical or mental
pain, did you? I didn't see anyone suffering form sever pain or anguish,
did you?
Now look at Nick Berg, what information did he have? What 'intel' did he
have? Nick Berg was tortured. You need to use terms that are more
appropriate such as embarrassed.
Post by svenboAllowing the government or military to cover this up is not acceptable.
All
Post by svenboinformation, pictures, videos, etc has to be released now.
What is not acceptable is killing an innocent 26 year old guy who was only
trying to find work. You make is sound like he had it coming and anyone
else that is killed has it coming because they are American.
I'm not sure what your agenda is but it certainly isn't for justify, it
sounds like it is for vengeance.