Discussion:
land of the fat
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BuShMaN
2004-10-31 13:24:09 UTC
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fast food eating decadent asshole bombdropping tyrrants

http://afraidofamerica.proboards28.com/
Richard J
2004-10-31 13:52:29 UTC
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Post by BuShMaN
fast food eating decadent asshole bombdropping tyrrants
http://afraidofamerica.proboards28.com/
No doubt about it, Americans are as a whole, fat. That's one of the
disadvantages of living in the richest nation in the world where we not
only have available the bounty of the Earth, but the money to purchase
whatever we want to eat.

Teflon
Amber
2004-10-31 15:21:51 UTC
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Post by Richard J
Post by BuShMaN
fast food eating decadent asshole bombdropping tyrrants
http://afraidofamerica.proboards28.com/
No doubt about it, Americans are as a whole, fat. That's one of the
disadvantages of living in the richest nation in the world where we not
only have available the bounty of the Earth, but the money to purchase
whatever we want to eat.
Except those living in poverty. You have a lot of people who don't have
enough to eat, don't you? Bush probably likes it like that too. They're
the poor schmucks who enlist because it's sometimes the only job around and
a turn in the military will help get their college education paid for. Then
they get to die.
You;re proud of your wealth while others starve or are out on the street.
Bush has given you the worst net job loss in 72 years.
ADF
Post by Richard J
Teflon
BuShMaN
2004-11-01 00:02:25 UTC
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maybe Bush will reinstate the draft and get some of the rich americans
killed too.
Post by Amber
Post by Richard J
Post by BuShMaN
fast food eating decadent asshole bombdropping tyrrants
http://afraidofamerica.proboards28.com/
No doubt about it, Americans are as a whole, fat. That's one of the
disadvantages of living in the richest nation in the world where we not
only have available the bounty of the Earth, but the money to purchase
whatever we want to eat.
Except those living in poverty. You have a lot of people who don't have
enough to eat, don't you? Bush probably likes it like that too. They're
the poor schmucks who enlist because it's sometimes the only job around and
a turn in the military will help get their college education paid for.
Then
Post by Amber
they get to die.
You;re proud of your wealth while others starve or are out on the street.
Bush has given you the worst net job loss in 72 years.
ADF
Post by Richard J
Teflon
Amber
2004-11-01 19:24:27 UTC
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Post by BuShMaN
maybe Bush will reinstate the draft and get some of the rich americans
killed too.
Rich Americans don't seem to serve much. Apparently ONE congressman has a
child fighting overseas. The Texas Air National Guard was Bush's hiding
place. Even fulfilling that duty is in question. He hasn't a shred of
evidence saying he actually DID go to Alabama. Nobody has come forward
saying they saw him there, no documents prove anything.
ADF
TonyInTsv
2004-11-01 12:44:37 UTC
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Post by Amber
Except those living in poverty. You have a lot of people who don't have
enough to eat, don't you? Bush probably likes it like that too. They're
the poor schmucks who enlist because it's sometimes the only job around and
a turn in the military will help get their college education paid for.
Then
they get to die.
Let's compare the state of the people living in poverty in the US to say
those in africa. I know where I'd rather be poor
BuShMaN
2004-11-01 17:17:58 UTC
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Post by TonyInTsv
Post by Amber
Except those living in poverty. You have a lot of people who don't have
enough to eat, don't you? Bush probably likes it like that too.
They're
Post by TonyInTsv
Post by Amber
the poor schmucks who enlist because it's sometimes the only job around and
a turn in the military will help get their college education paid for.
Then
they get to die.
Let's compare the state of the people living in poverty in the US to say
those in africa. I know where I'd rather be poor
At least in the US you can live out behind pizza hut and eat the crust. the
fat o' the land.
Amber
2004-11-01 18:30:04 UTC
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Post by TonyInTsv
Post by Amber
Except those living in poverty. You have a lot of people who don't have
enough to eat, don't you? Bush probably likes it like that too.
They're
Post by TonyInTsv
Post by Amber
the poor schmucks who enlist because it's sometimes the only job around and
a turn in the military will help get their college education paid for.
Then
they get to die.
Let's compare the state of the people living in poverty in the US to say
those in africa. I know where I'd rather be poor
It's a safe bet everone would prefer that. Too bad we weren't talking aout
them. We WERE talking about Richard J's arrogant remarks about how wealthy
and well off America is, better than anywhere else.
Another 4 years of Bush will make it worse. He couldn't even take care of
the companies he owned. I've been reading House of Bush, House of Saud.
It's a gusher when it comes to info on Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. Arbusto was a
disaster. Amazingly, he found himself with a couple of angels who bailed
him out. Were it not for daddy dearest, he could have been facing insider
trading charges. It was Enron long before Enron. Yet this is the man to
take America through 4 more years. He lost jobs overall, something that
hadn't happened in 72 years. What do you think those who lost jobs are
doing now? Living on air? Running a company wqas beyond him.
The Bush family has apparently taken corruption to new levels and everyday
Americans are the ones who pay for that. How many more Americans don't have
health care insurance, they can't afford it? Perscription drug costs can be
out of reach for some. Yet Bush will not stand for bringing drugs in from
other countries. That wouldn't be something his supporters/contributors in
the prarmaceutical industry wouldn't like. They don't seem to mind having
flu vaccine come from Canada though, they make little, if any money on
those. Maybe that's part of the reason why our average life span is longer
Americas?
ADF
ZD
2004-11-06 12:28:25 UTC
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Karl Rove's White House " Murder, Inc."

By Wayne Madsen .
Online Journal Contributing Writer .

NOV., 2004- On September 15, 2001, just four days after the 9-11 attacks,
CIA Director George Tenet provided President [sic] Bush with a Top Secret
"Worldwide Attack Matrix"-a virtual license to kill targets deemed to be a
threat to the United States in some 80 countries around the world. The Tenet
plan, which was subsequently approved by Bush, essentially reversed the
executive orders of four previous U.S. administrations that expressly
prohibited political assassinations.

According to high level European intelligence officials, Bush's counselor,
Karl Rove, used the new presidential authority to silence a popular Lebanese
Christian politician who was planning to offer irrefutable evidence that
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon authorized the massacre of hundreds of
Palestinian men, women, and children in the Beirut refugee camps of Sabra
and Shatilla in 1982. In addition, Sharon provided the Lebanese forces who
carried out the grisly task. At the time of the massacres, Elie Hobeika was
intelligence chief of Lebanese Christian forces in Lebanon who were battling
Palestinians and other Muslim groups in a bloody civil war. He was also the
chief liaison to Israeli Defense Force (IDF) personnel in Lebanon. An
official Israeli inquiry into the massacre at the camps, the Kahan
Commission, merely found Sharon "indirectly" responsible for the slaughter
and fingered Hobeika as the chief instigator.

The Kahan Commission never called on Hobeika to offer testimony in his
defense. However, in response to charges brought against Sharon before a
special war crimes court in Belgium, Hobeika was urged to testify against
Sharon, according to well-informed Lebanese sources. Hobeika was prepared to
offer a different version of events than what was contained in the Kahan
report. A 1993 Belgian law permitting human rights prosecutions was unusual
in that non-Belgians could be tried for violations against other
non-Belgians in a Belgian court. Under pressure from the Bush
administration, the law was severely amended and the extra territoriality
provisions were curtailed.

Hobeika headed the Lebanese forces intelligence agency since the mid- 1970s
and he soon developed close ties to the CIA. He was a frequent visitor to
the CIA's headquarters at Langley, Virginia. After the Syrian invasion of
Lebanon in 1990, Hobeika held a number of cabinet positions in the Lebanese
government, a proxy for the Syrian occupation authorities. He also served in
the parliament. In July 2001, Hobeika called a press conference and
announced he was prepared to testify against Sharon in Belgium and revealed
that he had evidence of what actually occurred in Sabra and Shatilla.
Hobeika also indicated that Israel had flown members of the South Lebanon
Army (SLA) into Beirut International Airport in an Israeli Air Force C130
transport plane. In full view of dozens of witnesses, including members of
the Lebanese army and others, SLA troops under the command of Major Saad
Haddad were slipped into the camps to commit the massacres. The SLA troops
were under the direct command of Ariel Sharon and an Israeli Mossad agent
provocateur named Rafi Eitan. Hobeika offered evidence that a former U.S.
ambassador to Lebanon was aware of the Israeli plot. In addition, the IDF
had placed a camera in a strategic position to film the Sabra and Shatilla
massacres. Hobeika was going to ask that the footage be released as part of
the investigation of Sharon.

After announcing he was willing to testify against Sharon, Hobeika became
fearful for his safety and began moves to leave Lebanon. Hobeika was not
aware that his threats to testify against Sharon had triggered a series of
fateful events that reached well into the White House and Sharon's office.

On January 24, 2002, Hobeika's car was blown up by a remote controlled bomb
placed in a parked Mercedes along a street in the Hazmieh section of Beirut.
The bomb exploded when Hobeika and his three associates, Fares Souweidan,
Mitri Ajram, and Waleed Zein, were driving their Range Rover past the
TNT-laden Mercedes at 9:40 am Beirut time. The Range Rover's four passengers
were killed in the explosion. In case Hobeika's car had taken another route

through the neighborhood, two additional parked cars, located at two other
choke points, were also rigged with TNT. The powerful bomb wounded a number
of other people on the street. Other parked cars were destroyed and
buildings and homes were damaged. The Lebanese president, prime minister,
and interior minister all claimed that Israeli agents were behind the
attack.

It is noteworthy that the State Department's list of global terrorist
incidents for 2002 worldwide failed to list the car bombing attack on
Hobeika and his party. The White House wanted to ensure the attack was
censored from the report. The reason was simple: the attack ultimately had
Washington's fingerprints on it.

High level European intelligence sources now report that Karl Rove
personally coordinated Hobeika's assassination. The hit on Hobeika employed
Syrian intelligence agents. Syrian President Bashar Assad was trying to
curry favor with the Bush administration in the aftermath of 9-11 and was
more than willing to help the White House. In addition, Assad's father,
Hafez Assad, had been an ally of Bush's father during Desert Storm, a period
that saw Washington give a "wink and a nod" to Syria's occupation of
Lebanon. Rove wanted to help Sharon avoid any political embarrassment from
an in absentia trial in Brussels where Hobeika would be a star witness. Rove
and Sharon agreed on the plan to use Syrian Military Intelligence agents to
assassinate Hobeika. Rove saw Sharon as an indispensable ally of Bush in
ensuring the loyalty of the Christian evangelical and Jewish voting blocs in
the United States. Sharon saw the plan to have the United States coordinate
the hit as a way to mask all connections to Jerusalem.

The Syrian hit team was ordered by Assef Shawkat, the number two man in
Syrian military intelligence and a good friend and brother in law of Syrian
President Bashar Assad. Assad's intelligence services had already cooperated
with U.S. intelligence in resorting to unconventional methods to extract
information from al Qaeda detainees deported to Syria from the United States
and other countries in the wake of 9-11. The order to take out Hobeika was
transmitted by Shawkat to Roustom Ghazali, the head of Syrian military
intelligence in Beirut. Ghazali arranged for the three remote controlled
cars to be parked along Hobeika's route in Hazmieh; only few hundred yards
from the Barracks of Syrian Special Forces which are stationed in the area
near the Presidential palace , the ministry of Defense and various
Government and officers quarters . This particular area is covered 24/7 by a
very sophisticated USA multi-agency surveillance system to monitor Syrian
and Lebanese security activities and is a " Choice " area to live in for its
perceived high security, [Courtesy of the Special Collections Services.]
SCS... ; CIA & NSA & DIA....etc.


The plan to kill Hobeika had all the necessary caveats and built-in denial
mechanisms. If the Syrians were discovered beforehand or afterwards, Karl
Rove and his associates in the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans would be
ensured plausible deniability.

Hobeika's CIA intermediary in Beirut, a man only referred to as "Jason" by
Hobeika, was a frequent companion of the Lebanese politician during official
and off-duty hours. During Hobeika's election campaigns for his
parliamentary seat, Jason was often in Hobeika's office offering support and
advice. After Hobeika's assassination, Jason became despondent over the
death of his colleague. Eventually, Jason disappeared abruptly from Lebanon
and reportedly later emerged in Pakistan.

Karl Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika may not have been
the last "hit" he ordered to help out Sharon. In March 2002, a few months
after Hobeika's assassination, another Lebanese Christian with knowledge of
Sharon's involvement in the Sabra and Shatilla massacres was gunned down
along with his wife in Sao Paulo, Brazil. A bullet fired at Michael Nassar's
car flattened one of his tires. Nassar pulled into a gasoline station for
repairs. A professional assassin, firing a gun with a silencer, shot Nassar
and his wife in the head, killing them both instantly. The assailant fled
and was never captured. Nassar was also involved with the Phalange militia
at Sabra and Shatilla. Nassar was also reportedly willing to testify against
Sharon in Belgium and, as a nephew of SLA Commander General Antoine Lahd,
may have had important evidence to bolster Hobeika's charge that Sharon
ordered SLA forces into the camps to wipe out the Palestinians.

Based on what European intelligence claims is concrete intelligence on
Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika, the Bush administration
can now add political assassination to its laundry list of other misdeeds,
from lying about the reasons to go to war to the torture tactics in
violation of the Geneva Conventions that have been employed by the Pentagon
and "third country" nationals at prisons in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay.

Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and
columnist. He served in the National Security Agency (NSA) during the Reagan
administration and wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth. He is the
co-author, with John Stanton, of "America's Nightmare: The Presidency of
George Bush II." His forthcoming book is titled: "Jaded Tasks: Big Oil,
Black Ops, and Brass Plates." Madsen can be reached at:
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Col. RSJ
2004-11-07 16:17:56 UTC
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Post by ZD
Karl Rove's White House " Murder, Inc."
By Wayne Madsen .
Online Journal Contributing Writer .
Who gives a shit.

My Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of Iraq regime has
been completed. Since congress does not want to spend any more money
on this war, Our mission in Iraq is complete.

This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of All American
forces from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days.

It is now to begin the reckoning. Before me, I have two lists. One
list contains the names of countries which have stood by our side
during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The United Kingdom,
Spain, Bulgaria, Australia, and Poland are some of the countries
listed there. The other list contains everyone not on the first list.
Most of the worlds nations are on that list. My press secretary will
be distributing copies of both lists later this evening. Let me start
by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid To those nations on
List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the
first year alone will pretty much pay for the war in Iraq. The
American people are no longer going to pour money into Third world
Hell-holes and watch those government leaders grow fat oncorruption.
Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France. In
the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money
toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home.

On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us And we
will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the
face of the earth. Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try
France, or maybe China. To Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Yo,
boys. Work Out a peace deal now. Just note that Camp David is closed.
Maybe all of you can go to Russia for negotiations. They have some
great palaces there. Big tables,too.

I am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with
France, Germany, and Russia. Thanks for all your help, comrades.

We are retiring from NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis. I have
instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN
diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid
parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped,
shredded and crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to
this. You creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those
tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers, and limos be
turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New
York.

A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are
likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to
try not pissing us off for a change. Mexico is also on List 2.
President Fox and his entire corrupt government really need an
attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra tank and infantry
divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put em? Yep,
border security. So start doing something with your oil.

Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty
---starting now. We are tired of the one-way highway. It is time for
America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens.Some will
accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying,"damn tootin."

Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life Around the
world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on
the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America. It is time to
eliminate homelessness in America. It is time to eliminate World Cup
Soccer from America. To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thanks
guys. We owe you and we won't forget. To the nations on List 2, a
final thought. Drop dead.

God bless America. Thank you and good night.

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in
English, thank a soldier.
Post by ZD
NOV., 2004- On September 15, 2001, just four days after the 9-11 attacks,
CIA Director George Tenet provided President [sic] Bush with a Top Secret
"Worldwide Attack Matrix"-a virtual license to kill targets deemed to be a
threat to the United States in some 80 countries around the world. The Tenet
plan, which was subsequently approved by Bush, essentially reversed the
executive orders of four previous U.S. administrations that expressly
prohibited political assassinations.
According to high level European intelligence officials, Bush's counselor,
Karl Rove, used the new presidential authority to silence a popular Lebanese
Christian politician who was planning to offer irrefutable evidence that
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon authorized the massacre of hundreds of
Palestinian men, women, and children in the Beirut refugee camps of Sabra
and Shatilla in 1982. In addition, Sharon provided the Lebanese forces who
carried out the grisly task. At the time of the massacres, Elie Hobeika was
intelligence chief of Lebanese Christian forces in Lebanon who were battling
Palestinians and other Muslim groups in a bloody civil war. He was also the
chief liaison to Israeli Defense Force (IDF) personnel in Lebanon. An
official Israeli inquiry into the massacre at the camps, the Kahan
Commission, merely found Sharon "indirectly" responsible for the slaughter
and fingered Hobeika as the chief instigator.
The Kahan Commission never called on Hobeika to offer testimony in his
defense. However, in response to charges brought against Sharon before a
special war crimes court in Belgium, Hobeika was urged to testify against
Sharon, according to well-informed Lebanese sources. Hobeika was prepared to
offer a different version of events than what was contained in the Kahan
report. A 1993 Belgian law permitting human rights prosecutions was unusual
in that non-Belgians could be tried for violations against other
non-Belgians in a Belgian court. Under pressure from the Bush
administration, the law was severely amended and the extra territoriality
provisions were curtailed.
Hobeika headed the Lebanese forces intelligence agency since the mid- 1970s
and he soon developed close ties to the CIA. He was a frequent visitor to
the CIA's headquarters at Langley, Virginia. After the Syrian invasion of
Lebanon in 1990, Hobeika held a number of cabinet positions in the Lebanese
government, a proxy for the Syrian occupation authorities. He also served in
the parliament. In July 2001, Hobeika called a press conference and
announced he was prepared to testify against Sharon in Belgium and revealed
that he had evidence of what actually occurred in Sabra and Shatilla.
Hobeika also indicated that Israel had flown members of the South Lebanon
Army (SLA) into Beirut International Airport in an Israeli Air Force C130
transport plane. In full view of dozens of witnesses, including members of
the Lebanese army and others, SLA troops under the command of Major Saad
Haddad were slipped into the camps to commit the massacres. The SLA troops
were under the direct command of Ariel Sharon and an Israeli Mossad agent
provocateur named Rafi Eitan. Hobeika offered evidence that a former U.S.
ambassador to Lebanon was aware of the Israeli plot. In addition, the IDF
had placed a camera in a strategic position to film the Sabra and Shatilla
massacres. Hobeika was going to ask that the footage be released as part of
the investigation of Sharon.
After announcing he was willing to testify against Sharon, Hobeika became
fearful for his safety and began moves to leave Lebanon. Hobeika was not
aware that his threats to testify against Sharon had triggered a series of
fateful events that reached well into the White House and Sharon's office.
On January 24, 2002, Hobeika's car was blown up by a remote controlled bomb
placed in a parked Mercedes along a street in the Hazmieh section of Beirut.
The bomb exploded when Hobeika and his three associates, Fares Souweidan,
Mitri Ajram, and Waleed Zein, were driving their Range Rover past the
TNT-laden Mercedes at 9:40 am Beirut time. The Range Rover's four passengers
were killed in the explosion. In case Hobeika's car had taken another route
through the neighborhood, two additional parked cars, located at two other
choke points, were also rigged with TNT. The powerful bomb wounded a number
of other people on the street. Other parked cars were destroyed and
buildings and homes were damaged. The Lebanese president, prime minister,
and interior minister all claimed that Israeli agents were behind the
attack.
It is noteworthy that the State Department's list of global terrorist
incidents for 2002 worldwide failed to list the car bombing attack on
Hobeika and his party. The White House wanted to ensure the attack was
censored from the report. The reason was simple: the attack ultimately had
Washington's fingerprints on it.
High level European intelligence sources now report that Karl Rove
personally coordinated Hobeika's assassination. The hit on Hobeika employed
Syrian intelligence agents. Syrian President Bashar Assad was trying to
curry favor with the Bush administration in the aftermath of 9-11 and was
more than willing to help the White House. In addition, Assad's father,
Hafez Assad, had been an ally of Bush's father during Desert Storm, a period
that saw Washington give a "wink and a nod" to Syria's occupation of
Lebanon. Rove wanted to help Sharon avoid any political embarrassment from
an in absentia trial in Brussels where Hobeika would be a star witness. Rove
and Sharon agreed on the plan to use Syrian Military Intelligence agents to
assassinate Hobeika. Rove saw Sharon as an indispensable ally of Bush in
ensuring the loyalty of the Christian evangelical and Jewish voting blocs in
the United States. Sharon saw the plan to have the United States coordinate
the hit as a way to mask all connections to Jerusalem.
The Syrian hit team was ordered by Assef Shawkat, the number two man in
Syrian military intelligence and a good friend and brother in law of Syrian
President Bashar Assad. Assad's intelligence services had already cooperated
with U.S. intelligence in resorting to unconventional methods to extract
information from al Qaeda detainees deported to Syria from the United States
and other countries in the wake of 9-11. The order to take out Hobeika was
transmitted by Shawkat to Roustom Ghazali, the head of Syrian military
intelligence in Beirut. Ghazali arranged for the three remote controlled
cars to be parked along Hobeika's route in Hazmieh; only few hundred yards
from the Barracks of Syrian Special Forces which are stationed in the area
near the Presidential palace , the ministry of Defense and various
Government and officers quarters . This particular area is covered 24/7 by a
very sophisticated USA multi-agency surveillance system to monitor Syrian
and Lebanese security activities and is a " Choice " area to live in for its
perceived high security, [Courtesy of the Special Collections Services.]
SCS... ; CIA & NSA & DIA....etc.
The plan to kill Hobeika had all the necessary caveats and built-in denial
mechanisms. If the Syrians were discovered beforehand or afterwards, Karl
Rove and his associates in the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans would be
ensured plausible deniability.
Hobeika's CIA intermediary in Beirut, a man only referred to as "Jason" by
Hobeika, was a frequent companion of the Lebanese politician during official
and off-duty hours. During Hobeika's election campaigns for his
parliamentary seat, Jason was often in Hobeika's office offering support and
advice. After Hobeika's assassination, Jason became despondent over the
death of his colleague. Eventually, Jason disappeared abruptly from Lebanon
and reportedly later emerged in Pakistan.
Karl Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika may not have been
the last "hit" he ordered to help out Sharon. In March 2002, a few months
after Hobeika's assassination, another Lebanese Christian with knowledge of
Sharon's involvement in the Sabra and Shatilla massacres was gunned down
along with his wife in Sao Paulo, Brazil. A bullet fired at Michael Nassar's
car flattened one of his tires. Nassar pulled into a gasoline station for
repairs. A professional assassin, firing a gun with a silencer, shot Nassar
and his wife in the head, killing them both instantly. The assailant fled
and was never captured. Nassar was also involved with the Phalange militia
at Sabra and Shatilla. Nassar was also reportedly willing to testify against
Sharon in Belgium and, as a nephew of SLA Commander General Antoine Lahd,
may have had important evidence to bolster Hobeika's charge that Sharon
ordered SLA forces into the camps to wipe out the Palestinians.
Based on what European intelligence claims is concrete intelligence on
Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika, the Bush administration
can now add political assassination to its laundry list of other misdeeds,
from lying about the reasons to go to war to the torture tactics in
violation of the Geneva Conventions that have been employed by the Pentagon
and "third country" nationals at prisons in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay.
Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and
columnist. He served in the National Security Agency (NSA) during the Reagan
administration and wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth. He is the
co-author, with John Stanton, of "America's Nightmare: The Presidency of
George Bush II." His forthcoming book is titled: "Jaded Tasks: Big Oil,
This is some of the evidence for you and for the World ....
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~~~encrypted/logs/access ~~~OF INTELLIGENCE Agencies Servers footprints.
Not to mention hundreds of private companies and governments. Anyway...
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# grep sid=1052 /encrypted/logs/access_log|awk '{print $1,$7}'|sed
-n'10,36p'.
spb-213-33-248-190.sovintel.ru /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Soviet/Russian Intelligence services...
ext1.shape.nato.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
NATO Intel.
server1.namsa.nato.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Nato Intel.
ns1.saclantc.nato.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Strategic Air Command US Intel.
bxlproxyb.europarl.eu.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
European Parliament Intel. Unit
wdcsun18.usdoj.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Department of Justice...
wdcsun21.usdoj.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Department of Justice...
tcs-gateway11.treas.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Treasury Department
tcs-gateway13.treas.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Treasury Department
relay1.ucia.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
CIA Langley
relay2.cia.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
CIA Langley
relay2.ucia.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
CIA Langley
n021.dhs.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Department of Homeland security Intel.
legion.dera.gov.uk /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
British Intel.
gateway-fincen.uscg.mil /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Pentagon US.
crawler2.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Intel....
crawler1.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Intel.....
gateway101.gsi.gov.uk /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
British Intel.
gate11-quantico.nmci.usmc.mil /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Marine Corps Quantico Virginia Intel.
gate13-quantico.nmci.usmc.mil /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Marine Corps Quantico Virginia Intel.
fw1-a.osis.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
US Intel SIS.
crawler13.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Intel....
fw1-b.osis.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
US Inte. OSIS.
bouncer.nics.gov.uk /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
British Intel.
beluha.ssu.gov.ua /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Ukrainian Intelligence.
zukprxpro02.zreo.compaq.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052....
Intel....
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2004-11-08 10:05:51 UTC
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Fuckin A between the members of the coalition of the willing (Note: This
excludes the pussy's in Spain) would be quite able to start their own
international economy. between us we will control North and South America,
Australasia, large portions of Europe, Middle East and Africa, the Pacific,
Atlantic and Indian Oceans, the worlds largest deposits of iron, aluminium,
uranium, lead, zinc substantial portions of the worlds supply of oil, gold,
silver, diamonds, and the largest ariable land mass in the world. In short,
the rest of the world can go fuck it's self. Let's see how you survive
without us
Post by Col. RSJ
Post by ZD
Karl Rove's White House " Murder, Inc."
By Wayne Madsen .
Online Journal Contributing Writer .
Who gives a shit.
My Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of Iraq regime has
been completed. Since congress does not want to spend any more money
on this war, Our mission in Iraq is complete.
This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of All American
forces from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days.
It is now to begin the reckoning. Before me, I have two lists. One
list contains the names of countries which have stood by our side
during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The United Kingdom,
Spain, Bulgaria, Australia, and Poland are some of the countries
listed there. The other list contains everyone not on the first list.
Most of the worlds nations are on that list. My press secretary will
be distributing copies of both lists later this evening. Let me start
by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid To those nations on
List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the
first year alone will pretty much pay for the war in Iraq. The
American people are no longer going to pour money into Third world
Hell-holes and watch those government leaders grow fat oncorruption.
Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France. In
the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money
toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home.
On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us And we
will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the
face of the earth. Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try
France, or maybe China. To Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Yo,
boys. Work Out a peace deal now. Just note that Camp David is closed.
Maybe all of you can go to Russia for negotiations. They have some
great palaces there. Big tables,too.
I am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with
France, Germany, and Russia. Thanks for all your help, comrades.
We are retiring from NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis. I have
instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN
diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid
parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped,
shredded and crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to
this. You creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those
tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers, and limos be
turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New
York.
A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are
likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to
try not pissing us off for a change. Mexico is also on List 2.
President Fox and his entire corrupt government really need an
attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra tank and infantry
divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put em? Yep,
border security. So start doing something with your oil.
Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty
---starting now. We are tired of the one-way highway. It is time for
America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens.Some will
accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying,"damn tootin."
Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life Around the
world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on
the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America. It is time to
eliminate homelessness in America. It is time to eliminate World Cup
Soccer from America. To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thanks
guys. We owe you and we won't forget. To the nations on List 2, a
final thought. Drop dead.
God bless America. Thank you and good night.
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in
English, thank a soldier.
Post by ZD
NOV., 2004- On September 15, 2001, just four days after the 9-11 attacks,
CIA Director George Tenet provided President [sic] Bush with a Top Secret
"Worldwide Attack Matrix"-a virtual license to kill targets deemed to be a
threat to the United States in some 80 countries around the world. The Tenet
plan, which was subsequently approved by Bush, essentially reversed the
executive orders of four previous U.S. administrations that expressly
prohibited political assassinations.
According to high level European intelligence officials, Bush's counselor,
Karl Rove, used the new presidential authority to silence a popular Lebanese
Christian politician who was planning to offer irrefutable evidence that
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon authorized the massacre of hundreds of
Palestinian men, women, and children in the Beirut refugee camps of Sabra
and Shatilla in 1982. In addition, Sharon provided the Lebanese forces who
carried out the grisly task. At the time of the massacres, Elie Hobeika was
intelligence chief of Lebanese Christian forces in Lebanon who were battling
Palestinians and other Muslim groups in a bloody civil war. He was also the
chief liaison to Israeli Defense Force (IDF) personnel in Lebanon. An
official Israeli inquiry into the massacre at the camps, the Kahan
Commission, merely found Sharon "indirectly" responsible for the slaughter
and fingered Hobeika as the chief instigator.
The Kahan Commission never called on Hobeika to offer testimony in his
defense. However, in response to charges brought against Sharon before a
special war crimes court in Belgium, Hobeika was urged to testify against
Sharon, according to well-informed Lebanese sources. Hobeika was prepared to
offer a different version of events than what was contained in the Kahan
report. A 1993 Belgian law permitting human rights prosecutions was unusual
in that non-Belgians could be tried for violations against other
non-Belgians in a Belgian court. Under pressure from the Bush
administration, the law was severely amended and the extra territoriality
provisions were curtailed.
Hobeika headed the Lebanese forces intelligence agency since the mid- 1970s
and he soon developed close ties to the CIA. He was a frequent visitor to
the CIA's headquarters at Langley, Virginia. After the Syrian invasion of
Lebanon in 1990, Hobeika held a number of cabinet positions in the Lebanese
government, a proxy for the Syrian occupation authorities. He also served in
the parliament. In July 2001, Hobeika called a press conference and
announced he was prepared to testify against Sharon in Belgium and revealed
that he had evidence of what actually occurred in Sabra and Shatilla.
Hobeika also indicated that Israel had flown members of the South Lebanon
Army (SLA) into Beirut International Airport in an Israeli Air Force C130
transport plane. In full view of dozens of witnesses, including members of
the Lebanese army and others, SLA troops under the command of Major Saad
Haddad were slipped into the camps to commit the massacres. The SLA troops
were under the direct command of Ariel Sharon and an Israeli Mossad agent
provocateur named Rafi Eitan. Hobeika offered evidence that a former U.S.
ambassador to Lebanon was aware of the Israeli plot. In addition, the IDF
had placed a camera in a strategic position to film the Sabra and Shatilla
massacres. Hobeika was going to ask that the footage be released as part of
the investigation of Sharon.
After announcing he was willing to testify against Sharon, Hobeika became
fearful for his safety and began moves to leave Lebanon. Hobeika was not
aware that his threats to testify against Sharon had triggered a series of
fateful events that reached well into the White House and Sharon's office.
On January 24, 2002, Hobeika's car was blown up by a remote controlled bomb
placed in a parked Mercedes along a street in the Hazmieh section of Beirut.
The bomb exploded when Hobeika and his three associates, Fares Souweidan,
Mitri Ajram, and Waleed Zein, were driving their Range Rover past the
TNT-laden Mercedes at 9:40 am Beirut time. The Range Rover's four passengers
were killed in the explosion. In case Hobeika's car had taken another route
through the neighborhood, two additional parked cars, located at two other
choke points, were also rigged with TNT. The powerful bomb wounded a number
of other people on the street. Other parked cars were destroyed and
buildings and homes were damaged. The Lebanese president, prime minister,
and interior minister all claimed that Israeli agents were behind the
attack.
It is noteworthy that the State Department's list of global terrorist
incidents for 2002 worldwide failed to list the car bombing attack on
Hobeika and his party. The White House wanted to ensure the attack was
censored from the report. The reason was simple: the attack ultimately had
Washington's fingerprints on it.
High level European intelligence sources now report that Karl Rove
personally coordinated Hobeika's assassination. The hit on Hobeika employed
Syrian intelligence agents. Syrian President Bashar Assad was trying to
curry favor with the Bush administration in the aftermath of 9-11 and was
more than willing to help the White House. In addition, Assad's father,
Hafez Assad, had been an ally of Bush's father during Desert Storm, a period
that saw Washington give a "wink and a nod" to Syria's occupation of
Lebanon. Rove wanted to help Sharon avoid any political embarrassment from
an in absentia trial in Brussels where Hobeika would be a star witness. Rove
and Sharon agreed on the plan to use Syrian Military Intelligence agents to
assassinate Hobeika. Rove saw Sharon as an indispensable ally of Bush in
ensuring the loyalty of the Christian evangelical and Jewish voting blocs in
the United States. Sharon saw the plan to have the United States coordinate
the hit as a way to mask all connections to Jerusalem.
The Syrian hit team was ordered by Assef Shawkat, the number two man in
Syrian military intelligence and a good friend and brother in law of Syrian
President Bashar Assad. Assad's intelligence services had already cooperated
with U.S. intelligence in resorting to unconventional methods to extract
information from al Qaeda detainees deported to Syria from the United States
and other countries in the wake of 9-11. The order to take out Hobeika was
transmitted by Shawkat to Roustom Ghazali, the head of Syrian military
intelligence in Beirut. Ghazali arranged for the three remote controlled
cars to be parked along Hobeika's route in Hazmieh; only few hundred yards
from the Barracks of Syrian Special Forces which are stationed in the area
near the Presidential palace , the ministry of Defense and various
Government and officers quarters . This particular area is covered 24/7 by a
very sophisticated USA multi-agency surveillance system to monitor Syrian
and Lebanese security activities and is a " Choice " area to live in for its
perceived high security, [Courtesy of the Special Collections Services.]
SCS... ; CIA & NSA & DIA....etc.
The plan to kill Hobeika had all the necessary caveats and built-in denial
mechanisms. If the Syrians were discovered beforehand or afterwards, Karl
Rove and his associates in the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans would be
ensured plausible deniability.
Hobeika's CIA intermediary in Beirut, a man only referred to as "Jason" by
Hobeika, was a frequent companion of the Lebanese politician during official
and off-duty hours. During Hobeika's election campaigns for his
parliamentary seat, Jason was often in Hobeika's office offering support and
advice. After Hobeika's assassination, Jason became despondent over the
death of his colleague. Eventually, Jason disappeared abruptly from Lebanon
and reportedly later emerged in Pakistan.
Karl Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika may not have been
the last "hit" he ordered to help out Sharon. In March 2002, a few months
after Hobeika's assassination, another Lebanese Christian with knowledge of
Sharon's involvement in the Sabra and Shatilla massacres was gunned down
along with his wife in Sao Paulo, Brazil. A bullet fired at Michael Nassar's
car flattened one of his tires. Nassar pulled into a gasoline station for
repairs. A professional assassin, firing a gun with a silencer, shot Nassar
and his wife in the head, killing them both instantly. The assailant fled
and was never captured. Nassar was also involved with the Phalange militia
at Sabra and Shatilla. Nassar was also reportedly willing to testify against
Sharon in Belgium and, as a nephew of SLA Commander General Antoine Lahd,
may have had important evidence to bolster Hobeika's charge that Sharon
ordered SLA forces into the camps to wipe out the Palestinians.
Based on what European intelligence claims is concrete intelligence on
Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika, the Bush
administration
can now add political assassination to its laundry list of other misdeeds,
from lying about the reasons to go to war to the torture tactics in
violation of the Geneva Conventions that have been employed by the Pentagon
and "third country" nationals at prisons in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay.
Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and
columnist. He served in the National Security Agency (NSA) during the Reagan
administration and wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth. He is the
co-author, with John Stanton, of "America's Nightmare: The Presidency of
George Bush II." His forthcoming book is titled: "Jaded Tasks: Big Oil,
This is some of the evidence for you and for the World ....
************************************************************
~~~encrypted/logs/access ~~~OF INTELLIGENCE Agencies Servers footprints.
Not to mention hundreds of private companies and governments. Anyway...
***************************************************************
# grep sid=1052 /encrypted/logs/access_log|awk '{print $1,$7}'|sed
-n'10,36p'.
spb-213-33-248-190.sovintel.ru
/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Soviet/Russian Intelligence services...
ext1.shape.nato.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
NATO Intel.
server1.namsa.nato.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Nato Intel.
ns1.saclantc.nato.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Strategic Air Command US Intel.
bxlproxyb.europarl.eu.int /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
European Parliament Intel. Unit
wdcsun18.usdoj.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Department of Justice...
wdcsun21.usdoj.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Department of Justice...
tcs-gateway11.treas.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Treasury Department
tcs-gateway13.treas.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Treasury Department
relay1.ucia.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
CIA Langley
relay2.cia.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
CIA Langley
relay2.ucia.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
CIA Langley
n021.dhs.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Department of Homeland security Intel.
legion.dera.gov.uk /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
British Intel.
gateway-fincen.uscg.mil /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Pentagon US.
crawler2.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Intel....
crawler1.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Intel.....
gateway101.gsi.gov.uk /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
British Intel.
gate11-quantico.nmci.usmc.mil /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Marine Corps Quantico Virginia Intel.
gate13-quantico.nmci.usmc.mil /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
USA Marine Corps Quantico Virginia Intel.
fw1-a.osis.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
US Intel SIS.
crawler13.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Intel....
fw1-b.osis.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
US Inte. OSIS.
bouncer.nics.gov.uk /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
British Intel.
beluha.ssu.gov.ua /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
Ukrainian Intelligence.
zukprxpro02.zreo.compaq.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052....
Intel....
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00:00:00Hg
2004-11-08 12:41:03 UTC
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Post by TonyInTsv
Fuckin A between the members of the coalition of the willing (Note: This
excludes the pussy's in Spain) would be quite able to start their own
international economy. between us we will control North and South America,
Australasia, large portions of Europe, Middle East and Africa, the
Pacific, Atlantic and Indian Oceans, the worlds largest deposits of iron,
aluminium, uranium, lead, zinc substantial portions of the worlds supply
of oil, gold, silver, diamonds, and the largest ariable land mass in the
world. In short, the rest of the world can go fuck it's self. Let's see
how you survive without us
You forgot to include Cuba. You need sugar to make Formica(R),
TonyInTsv
2004-11-10 08:47:03 UTC
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Post by TonyInTsv
Fuckin A between the members of the coalition of the willing (Note: This
excludes the pussy's in Spain) would be quite able to start their own
international economy. between us we will control North and South America,
Australasia, large portions of Europe, Middle East and Africa, the
Pacific, Atlantic and Indian Oceans, the worlds largest deposits of iron,
aluminium, uranium, lead, zinc substantial portions of the worlds supply
of oil, gold, silver, diamonds, and the largest ariable land mass in the
world. In short, the rest of the world can go fuck it's self. Let's see
how you survive without us
You forgot to include Cuba. You need sugar to make Formica(R),
We've got more than enough sugar here in Oz to mak all the formica you need
with some left over for your coffee
00:00:00Hg
2004-11-10 12:01:29 UTC
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Post by TonyInTsv
Post by 00:00:00Hg
This excludes the pussy's in Spain) would be quite able to start their
own international economy. between us we will control North and South
America,
Australasia, large portions of Europe, Middle East and Africa, the
Pacific, Atlantic and Indian Oceans, the worlds largest deposits of
iron, aluminium, uranium, lead, zinc substantial portions of the worlds
supply of oil, gold, silver, diamonds, and the largest ariable land
mass in the world. In short, the rest of the world can go fuck it's
self. Let's see how you survive without us
You forgot to include Cuba. You need sugar to make Formica(R),
We've got more than enough sugar here in Oz to mak all the formica you
need with some left over for your coffee
Deal. We've got some Cuban Cigar options you may be interested
in and we'll throw in rivers of Rum if you include Tea with the sugar.
Amber
2004-11-10 17:36:23 UTC
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This excludes the pussy's in Spain) would be quite able to start their
own international economy. between us we will control North and South
America,
Bull. This is the list of the coalition of the "willing";

a.. Afghanistan
a.. Albania
a.. Australia
a.. Azerbaijan
a.. Colombia
a.. Czech Republic
a.. Denmark
a.. El Salvador
a.. Eritrea
a.. Estonia
a.. Ethiopia
a.. Georgia
a.. Hungary
a.. Iceland
a.. Italy
a.. Japan
a.. Latvia
a.. Lithuania
a.. Macedonia
a.. Netherlands
a.. Nicaragua
a.. Philippines
a.. Poland
a.. Romania
a.. Slovakia
a.. South Korea
a.. Spain
a.. Turkey
a.. United Kingdom
a.. Uzbekistan
As for countries that actually put their money where their mouth is, with troops in Iraq, how long is that list? There are the Brits (who'll be looking at an election soon and are not at all happy the poodle Tony Blair put them there), the Aussies and very small contributions from a handful of other nations. In fact, isn't it true that more than a few countries on that list depend on the United States for aid? I think South Korea has a pretty good idea what would happen to them if they said no to America on much of anything. Same thing goes for Afghanistan. Afghanistan is a little busy right now, they'd be screwed if you left and they know it. You have third world countries in that list and all they do is beef up the numbers.
Once George Bush lied his ass off an that carrier more countries came into Iraq for the recontruction phase. Now, some of them are pulling out, not just Spain either.
Support has eroded among the coalition. In early 2004 Costa Rica, Spain, the Dominican Republic, and Honduras said they planned to withdraw their forces from Iraq. In addition, Poland's President Aleksander Kwasniewski said in mid-March 2004 they'd had been "misled" about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and was considering withdrawing earlier than expected; Poland's defense minister reportedly said in October 2004 that Poland's forces would stay throughout 2005 but withdraw sometime soon afterwards. In September 2004, Costa Rica asked to be removed from the list of Iraq coalition members after a court ruling that found that inclusion on that list violated the country's constitution.
As for Spain, Spaniards exercised their democratic rights and voted for the man who said he wanted Spain out of Iraq. If there was any country showing their true colours after that, it was the US. Being in Iraq wasn't popular from the beginning. After the Madrid bombings, the Spanish government downplayed the Al Quaeda theory, showing more interest in pinning it on the Basques. They did that despite the fact that it wasn't the Basque separatist's style. I suppose THAT had nothing to do with their having their ass kicked out of power?
and, FYI, those Spanish pussies? What they actually said was that they would not EXTEND their presence in Iraq, didn't they? Isn't it also true that they sad they wouldn't extend their presence unless the UN took charge? It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Spain knew that reasons for going into Iraq was a line of Bull America fed the world, isn't that also true?
http://scoop.agonist.org/archives/014403.html
So far, the only big nation voting a government sympathetic to the war in Iraq is back in is Australia. How many Australians are there in Iraq. The Brits have the largest number after the US. Tony Blair's in trouble too, is he not?
As for the coalition of he willing being able to able to "start their own international economy" and the assertion that "between us we will control North and South America" can I have some of the drugs you sound like you're on?
You get more oil from Canada than any other country. You get electricity from us. Try having your own economy when you're freezing your ass off in the dark and don't have enough oil. Your neighbours to the north and the south aren't part of the coalition either. You've actually invaded some of the countries you have on that coalition list (Nicarauga). Fear put some in the coalition and it wasn't fear of terrorists either, it was the US.
ADF
00:00:00Hg
2004-11-10 18:07:10 UTC
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Post by Amber
Try having your own economy when you're freezing
your ass off in the dark and don't have enough oil.
Not a problem for the whole world really. Current living know
only the benefit of science and technological influence.

Twas a time when no electricity or oil to generate it were needed
or even thought of. Times were far simpler and socialist thinking
did not have a foundation to curse and enjoy.

Today, the box of chocolates is almost empty. The able few are
scrapeing up the last crumbs of ecconomic nectar for the long
cold winter that it knows is ahead.

You see, unknown by the many is the knowledge of the few that
the sun is about to explode. The Dragon wrapped around it is making
the last of it's constrictor squeezes along the dark spots of his
mighty underbelly. With a flash all points will be made moot.
TonyInTsv
2004-11-16 12:46:45 UTC
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You get more oil from Canada than any other country. You get electricity
from us. Try having your own economy when you're freezing your ass off in
the dark and don't have enough oil. Your neighbours to the north and the
south aren't part of the coalition either. You've actually invaded some of
the countries you have on that coalition list (Nicarauga). Fear put some in
the coalition and it wasn't fear of terrorists either, it was the US.

Bull shit I'm in OZ so I get SFA from the wankers in Canada. We make our own
power and we get most of out oil from the middle east where most of the
worlds oil is. So you can shove the rest of that crap up your arse
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