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The Janus* face of Islam (NFB January 16, 2002)
By Abul Kasem

Islamists living in the infidel West are greatly alarmed and deeply
perplexed after the September terrorist attack in America. After 9-11, many
of them are doing overtime to search the 'goodies' from the Qur'an and are
desperate to prove that Islam is a religion of unbound mercy to their host
countries. They repeatedly quote a handful of these 'goldies' from the
'Meccan Verses' of the Qur'an, which are milder in tone than the ones
descended on Medina. They carefully hide the unconscionable, intolerable,
barbaric verses that litter the almost entire Qur'an by saying that 'those
verses are out of context' and are not applicable to the infidels who have
given them a chance for a better life and have accepted them as their own
countrymen. Nothing can be worse than this hide and seek game of the
Islamists living in the West. It is in the interest of all the non-Muslims
(as well as the innocent Muslims who have very little knowledge about 'real
Islam') that the truth must be told.

The message is very clear. Those Islamists living in the West quote those
'goodies' from the Qur'an are actually showing the dead 'Meccan Islam' to
the vast majority of the ignorant non-Muslims (as well as half-informed
Muslims) to camouflage the most up to date version of Islam; i.e. the living
and breathing 'Medina Islam'. The strategies of these Islamists are also
very clear:

· When in the West or in the land of the infidels or when weak, then
practice 'Meccan Islam'.
· When in Islamic paradises or when the number of Muslims becomes
sizable in an infidels land, then practice 'Medina Islam' or the 'real
Islam'.

The sooner the humanity discovers this double face of Islam (a la Roman god
Janus) the quicker will it be saved from the further catastrophe of the like
of 9-11.

So, how do we know about the 'living and breathing Medina Islam'? Here is
the answer.

In order to understand the 'real Islam' we must look at Qur'an in
chronological order and not the way it is published. The chronological
order shows which verses are canceled and which verses are replaced. It is
meaningless to study and to explain Qur'an without the knowledge of its
currency. Many verses in the Qur'an have been replaced by other verses.

The Qur'an itself talks about this in the following verses:

God does not abrogate any verse but substitutes something similar or
better...2:106
God removes (abrogates?) what He wills...13:39
God substitutes one revelation with another; God has the mother of the
Book...16:101

These verses have created a lot of confusions among many. However, one
thing is certain. It is this. God does change His mind and that that
change can be very dramatic. In many cases, the matter of abrogation may
involve life and death situation. So, it is extremely important (especially
for the ignorant non-Muslims) to know which verses are applicable to them
and which verses are not. The most important among these verses are the
ones containing the provisions of fighting the infidels. There was a time
when fighting was prohibited and there was (rather is) a time when fighting
became compulsory.

Those verses revealed in Mecca are considered to be the benign and
non-violent type. There are 87 Meccan verse and 27 Medina verses (this may
vary slightly but we shall work with these numbers). Thus, there are total
114 suras (or chapters) in Qur'an.

Medina verses contain the provisions of fighting because it was in Medina
that Mohammad received the green light (read signal) from God to fight the
infidels. So, as a guide we can conclude that the verses with a chronology
order of 87 or more are the replacement for the Meccan verses regarding the
treatment of the unbelievers.

In this short discourse, I shall try to elucidate how we can eliminate the
confusion regarding the 'goodies' from the Islamists and the 'bashings' from
the secularists/freethinkers/infidels.

Please note that the chronology order of the verses are indicated in bold
( ).

We can divide the propagation of Islam by Mohammad in four distinct phases.
These phases are:

1. Peaceful persuasion
2. Fighting for defense
3. Limited attack
4. Open aggression


Phase 1: Peaceful persuasion stage.
Highlights
· A policy of peaceful co-existence with the pagans of Mecca.
· Give and take strategy with the pagans and the hypocrites.
· Jews and Christians (people of the Book) were considered as
friends.
· Mohammad was almost like the Buddha preaching love, forgiveness,
non-violence, and peace.
· Only the pagans of Mecca were considered as enemies (i.e. enemy
list contains only one group).


Important verses

(Note: To save time and space I have given the main messages of the verses
omitting the complete verses. Click HERE if you want to read the complete
verses)

1. Be patient and bear with those who deny the truth; God will deal
with them...73:10, 11 (3)
2. 'To you is your religion, to me is mine'...109:1- 6 (8)
3. Be patient with the evil doers...38:15-17 (38)
4. Show patience to the pagans...20:130 (42)
5. Don't be in a haste to fight...19:83, 84 (44)
6. Be patient with the unbelievers (pagans); God's way will
prevail...20:134, 135 (45)
7. Mohammad is not sent to dispose of people's affairs...17:54 (50)
8. God guides those whom He pleases; rewards will be in
paradise...10:25, 26 (51)
9. God will call into account the pagans who slander the Qur'
an...15:91-93 (54)
10. It is not God's job to see if people believe the truth or not...6:104
(55)
11. Turn away from those rejecting faith and proclaim peace on
them...43:88, 89 (69)
12. Invite the unbelievers (pagans) with beautiful preaching and gracious
arguments; be patient and do not retaliate...16:125, 126 (70)
13. Leave the unbelievers (pagans) alone...23:54 (74)
14. Repeal evil with good deeds...23:96 (74)
15. Leave the unbelievers alone and wait in patience for God to punish
them...52:45, 47, 48 (76)
16. Mohammad is only a warner and not an enforcer...67:26 (77)


Phase 2: Fighting for defense stage
Highlights
· Mohammed along with his handful followers migrated to Medina (622
AD). Some tribes of Medina accepted him as their leader.
· Mohammed and his gang started raids on passing caravans of the
Meccans to acquire the wherewithal for survival.
· Mohammad won the battle of Badr (same year of migration i.e.622 AD)
which bolstered his morale for further raids on Meccan caravans.
· After several years of stay in Medina, God gave Mohammad permission
to launch defensive war.
· Enemies were the pagans of Mecca and the hypocrites (note: the
enemy list includes two groups now).

Important verses
1. Permission to fight for self defense is granted...22:39-41 (105)
2. Rewards for Jihad is announced...22:58 (105)


Phase 3: More defensively aggressive stage

Highlights
· Mohammad expected the Jews of Medina to accept him as their new
Moses.
· The Jews rejected Mohammad as their new apostle.
· Mohammad included the Jews as his enemy and started to raid their
sanctuaries.
· Enemies of Mohammad now were pagans, hypocrites, and the Jews
(note: the enemy list now contains three).
· Mohammad was a little bit forgiving to the defeated Jews. He gave
them a chance to live in their lands provided they paid him fifty percent of
their agricultural produce of land.
· This way Mohammad acquired the means of a guaranteed livelihood for
his horde of soldiers.
· The battle of Uhud (623 AD) was fought. Muslims suffered a severe
beating in the battle.
· The battle of trench (625 AD) took place with huge loss of lives.
Mohammad managed to win this battle.
· Treaty of Hudaibiya (626 AD) was signed with the pagans of Mecca
ensuring ten years of peace. Mohammad was allowed to visit Kaba along with
his followers during the pilgrimage season.
· Battle of Khaibar (627 AD) took place. The Jews lost the battle
and surrendered unconditionally. Mohmmad ordered the beheading of around 700
adult male surrendered Jews and took 17 years old Jewess Safiya as a war
booty and made her his wife.

Important verses
1. Forgive and overlook the unbelieving Jews; God will take care of
them...2:109 (87)
2. Fight defensively the Meccan pagans but if they cease hostility then
stop fighting except for the oppressors...2:190-194 (87)
3. Fighting against the Meccan pagans is prescribed after the passing
of the month of pilgrimage (Zulhaj)...2:216, 217 (87)
4. 'No compulsion in religion'; do not force the defeated enemy to
embrace Islam; but they will be thrown in hell...2:256, 257 (87)
5. Spoils of war belongs to God and Mohammad...8:1 (88)
6. Strike terror in the hearts of the unbelievers; cut the necks and
finger tips of those who oppose God and Mohammad...8:12, 13 (88)
7. When you meet, the unbelievers in hostility attack them and never
turn back from them. If you retreat except for a strategic reason then God
will punish you and will send you to hell...8:15-16 (88)
8. Keep on fighting until the persecution stops and Islam is
established; one-fifth of booty belongs to God and Mohammad...8:39-41 (88)
9. Obey Mohammad, be united and persevere in fighting...8:45, 46 (88)
10. If you defeat the enemy then teach them with treachery and terror; if
they ask for peace then give them peace...8:57-61 (88)
11. Rouse the believers to fight with perseverance, God will help by
increasing your strength...8:65 (88)
12. Continue killing and do not take prisoners until the land is subdued
then enjoy the war booty...8:67-69 (88)
13. Martyr's sins are blotted out and they go to paradise...3:157, 169-171,
195 (89)
14. Can take women captives as concubines in addition to wives...33:50 (90)
15. There is a great reward for fighting against the friends of
Satan...4:74-78 (92)
16. Fight and rouse other believers to fight; God will restrain the fury of
the unbelievers...4:84 (92)
17. Kill the hypocrites if they turn renegades...4:89 (92)
18. Higher grade for fighting for God...4:95, 96 (92)
19. Guaranteed reward for fighting in the cause of God...4:100 (92)
20. Whether a fighter kills or is killed, he is admitted in paradise to
reside there permanently...22:58, 59 (103)
21. Struggle for God's cause...22:78 (103)
22. Can't lag behind in fighting for God...48:15-16 (111)
23. Muslims are compassionate with each other but are strong to fight
against the unbelievers...48:29 (111)


Phase 4: Offensive war or open declaration of attack to spread Islam

This phase is the stage of open offensive war against all the unbelievers.
This phase started in 630 AD after Mohammad re-entered Mecca and captured
Kaba from the pagans. This is the phase, which is currently valid for all
Muslims.

Highlights
· Permission was granted by God to declare offensive war against all
non-Muslims.
· Kill the pagans and humble the Jews and the Christians through
Jizya tax.
· Tabuk expedition (late 630 AD) is the first war against the
Christians.
· The world is divided into two houses, viz. House of Islam (Darul
Islam) and the House of war (Darul Harb).
· All Muslims must fight to convert the Darul Harb into Darul Islam.
· This is the final teaching of Qur'an and so it is valid today and
for future (that is, for eternity).
· Christians are included in the list of enemies (that is, the list
now grows to four).
· Verse 9:5 (also called the verse of the sword) replaces all verses
showing mercy, love, tolerance and forgiveness to all non-Muslims.

Important verses
1. Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable...3:85 (89)
2. Kill (execute by beheading)/crucify/torture who opposes
Mohammad...5:33 (112)
3. Do not make friendship with the Jews and the Christians...5:51 (112)
4. After giving four months notice break all treaties with the pagans
that they did not keep; those treaties with the pagans that they kept are to
be honored to their full term; in future make no more peace treaties with
the pagans and kill all pagans who do not accept Islam...9:1-6 (113)
5. Pagans who accept Islam are brothers of Muslims; those who break the
agreement fight them...9:11, 12, 14, 15 (113)
6. Do not make friend or seek protection from the unbelievers (includes
pagans, hypocrites, Jews and the Christians)...9:16 (113)
7. Unbelievers should not visit mosques or maintain the mosques of God;
they will go to hell...9:17 (113)
8. Those who do Jihad are the highest in rank; they will dwell in
paradise...9:19-22 (113)
9. The unbelievers are unclean, forbid them to enter Kaba...9:28 (113)
10. Fight against the Jews and the Christians until they are subdued and
pay the Jizya tax with submission; God's curse is on them...9:29-31 (113)
11. If you do not fight in the cause of God with whatever you have got then
God will punish you with a serious punishment...9:38, 39, 41 (113)
12. If you fight for God then expect either martyrdom or paradise. The
unbelievers can expect only punishment from God...9:52 (113)
13. Those who are able to fight for God but do not do so are rejected by
God...9:90-96 (113)
14. Whether you slay or slain in Jihad, God has promised paradise for
giving all in the cause of God...9:111 (113)
15. Fight the unbelievers surrounding you...9:122 (113)

So, what do we learn from the above list of Quranic verses? Are you
confused? Of course you are. When the Islamists in the west are drumming,
"Islam is peace. Islam is tolerance. Islam is merciful" who will not be
confused by such contradictory statements! Let me tell you something.
Actually there is no confusion whatsoever if we follow the simple rule on
abrogation.

This simple doctrine of abrogation says that when there are confusions (i.e.
contradictory statements in Qur'an), the later verses abrogate the former
contradictory verses. The result is that only the latest category of verses
remains valid without any doubt. That is why it is so important to know the
chronological order of verses in Qur'an.

Let us hear from a modern translator (Yusuf Ali is too old) of the Qur'an
and Hadith.

"So at first 'the fighting' was forbidden, then it was permitted and after
that it was made obligatory against those who start 'the fighting' against
you (Muslims) and against all those who worship others along with Allah".

(Ref. Introduction section of the English translation of Sahih Bukhari by
Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Medina Islamic University).

In the same section Dr M. Muhsin Khan writes further

, "Then Allah revealed in Sura Bara'at (9) the order to discard (all) the
obligations (covenants, etc.) and commanded the Muslims to fight against all
the pagans as well as against the people of the scriptures (Jews and
Christians) if they do not embrace Islam, till they pay the Jizya (a tax
levied on the Jews and Christians who do not embrace Islam and are under the
protection of an Islamic government) with willing submission and feel
themselves subdued (9:29). So they (Muslims) were not permitted to abandon
'the fighting' against them (Pagans, Jews and Christians) and to reconcile
with them and to suspend hostilities against them for an unlimited period
while they are strong and have the possibility of fighting against them."

Jalaluddin Suyuti wrote Itqan fi 'ulum-il-Qur'an in 1497 AD. This book is
the Tafsir (explanation) of Qur'an and is highly regarded. It is a
compulsory reading for any one who wants to study Qur'an for its 'real
meanings'. His another famous book is Istenbat al-Tanzeel. In this book

Suyuti wrote,"everything in the Qur'an about forgiveness is abrogated by
verse 9:5".

Please read that above quote again if you are really serious about Islam.
Remember that this verse has a chronology order of 113 (Remember? There are
114 suras in Qur'an).

Islamic apologists often quote the following verses to portray the mercy and
forgiveness in Islam.

To you is your religion and to me is mine...109:6
No compulsion in religion...2:256
Turn away from those who join false gods with Allah...15:94

Unfortunately, all those 'goodies' of Qur'an are canceled if we follow the
Tafsir (explanation) of Suyuti and the doctrine of abrogation) regarding the
verse of the sword (9:5).

Islamists love Ms. Karen Armstrong for her siding with them. Ms. Karen
Armstrong writes to fool the non-Muslims in believing what George Bush is
drumming, 'Islam is a peaceful religion'. Any one who has a workable
knowledge on Islamic matters knows for sure that her writings are very
misleading and does not tell the truth at all. When Ms. Karen Armstrong
writes by quoting verse 2:190

"the only permissible war (in the Qur'an is one of self defense. Muslims
must not begin hostilities", (Time magazine October 1, 2001)

she is clearly being dishonest in telling the truth about the phase four of
Islamic war which calls all Muslims to declare a total war on the house of
Harb (i.e. the infidels abodes). Phase four of Jihad is valid until all the
people of the world are converted to Islam. Thus, today's Muslims are in
perpetual war with the infidels whether they (the Muslims) are in an Islamic
paradise like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh (recently included,
previously not), Iran ...or in infidel lands like USA, UK, Canada,
France...etc.

Here is another quote from Alsaylu Jarar (4:518-519) by Al-Shawkani.
Shawkani is a famous writer on Islamic matters. His writings are
authoritative and are used by the Jihadis to justify their merciless
actions.
"Islam is unanimous about fighting the unbelievers and forcing them to Islam
or submitting and paying Jizya tax (protection money for the Jews and the
Christians only) or being killed. The verse about forgiving them are
abrogated unanimously by the obligation of fighting in any case".

Can Ms. Karen Armstrong and other Islamists living in the comfort of
non-Muslim freethinking society refute the above assertion by an eminent
Alim (Islamic scholar)?

Please note that verse 9:5 is a very important verse of Qur'an. This verse
marks the transition from the phase of showing mercy (phase 1) and
forgiveness to the unbelievers to the phase of open aggression on them
(phase 4). As told before, this verse is known as the verse of the sword.
This verse cancels all the verses containing mercy, tolerance, and
forgiveness to the non-Muslims (as many as 111 to 124 verses; you got to
scan the entire Qur'an; anything forgiving, merciful, friendship is out).

Also, note carefully how the chronology order increases as Mohammad turns
from a non-violent (like Buddha) person to a fascist nazi like
Hitler/Mussolini/Osama/Ayatollah. In fact, we can safely conclude that
Mohammad was a saint before the chronology order of the Qur'an was below 87
but he became a fascist dictator after this.

Again note that the chronology order in the final phase of open aggression
against all non-Muslims of the world (phase 4) is almost the end (113)
chapter (sura) of Qur'an (Remember? There are 114 suras in Qur'an).

Is lying allowed in Islam? I must be a nut to ask such a question! Of
course, not, you say. Lying is a great sin in Islam; at least the Islamists
will let us believe this. This is a complete delusion. Muslims are allowed
to tell lies in order to make the religion of Islam rule the world. Would
you not believe me? See for yourself what Imam Ghazali (another supreme
Islamic scholar) says:

"Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praise worthy aim is
attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to
accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is
possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is
permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible " (Ref: Ahmad Ibn
Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim
Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745).

And what could be the noblest goal of a Muslim than to make Islam rule
world? This is the secret why the Islamists constantly lie about their
religion when they are in West. Because, if they tell the truth, no one
will be attracted to Islam.

Islamists often attack the secularists and freethinkers whenever they
(secularists/freethinkers) quote the offensive verses of the Qur'an by 'out
of context' arguments.

What could be more clear and forceful evidences / proofs than what has been
told above that 'out of context' argument by the Islamic apologists is a
total hoax?
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*A double-faced head represented Janus, a Roman god.
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The Janus* face of Islam (NFB January 16, 2002)
By Abul Kasem
Islamists living in the infidel West are greatly alarmed and deeply
perplexed after the September terrorist attack in America. After 9-11, many
of them are doing overtime to search the 'goodies' from the Qur'an and are
desperate to prove that Islam is a religion of unbound mercy to their host
countries. They repeatedly quote a handful of these 'goldies' from the
'Meccan Verses' of the Qur'an, which are milder in tone than the ones
descended on Medina. They carefully hide the unconscionable, intolerable,
barbaric verses that litter the almost entire Qur'an by saying that 'those
verses are out of context' and are not applicable to the infidels who have
given them a chance for a better life and have accepted them as their own
countrymen. Nothing can be worse than this hide and seek game of the
Islamists living in the West. It is in the interest of all the non-Muslims
(as well as the innocent Muslims who have very little knowledge about 'real
Islam') that the truth must be told.
The message is very clear. Those Islamists living in the West quote those
'goodies' from the Qur'an are actually showing the dead 'Meccan Islam' to
the vast majority of the ignorant non-Muslims (as well as half-informed
Muslims) to camouflage the most up to date version of Islam; i.e. the living
and breathing 'Medina Islam'. The strategies of these Islamists are also
· When in the West or in the land of the infidels or when weak, then
practice 'Meccan Islam'.
· When in Islamic paradises or when the number of Muslims becomes
sizable in an infidels land, then practice 'Medina Islam' or the 'real
Islam'.
The sooner the humanity discovers this double face of Islam (a la Roman god
Janus) the quicker will it be saved from the further catastrophe of the like
of 9-11.
So, how do we know about the 'living and breathing Medina Islam'? Here is
the answer.
In order to understand the 'real Islam' we must look at Qur'an in
chronological order and not the way it is published. The chronological
order shows which verses are canceled and which verses are replaced. It is
meaningless to study and to explain Qur'an without the knowledge of its
currency. Many verses in the Qur'an have been replaced by other verses.
God does not abrogate any verse but substitutes something similar or
better...2:106
God removes (abrogates?) what He wills...13:39
God substitutes one revelation with another; God has the mother of the
Book...16:101
These verses have created a lot of confusions among many. However, one
thing is certain. It is this. God does change His mind and that that
change can be very dramatic. In many cases, the matter of abrogation may
involve life and death situation. So, it is extremely important (especially
for the ignorant non-Muslims) to know which verses are applicable to them
and which verses are not. The most important among these verses are the
ones containing the provisions of fighting the infidels. There was a time
when fighting was prohibited and there was (rather is) a time when fighting
became compulsory.
Those verses revealed in Mecca are considered to be the benign and
non-violent type. There are 87 Meccan verse and 27 Medina verses (this may
vary slightly but we shall work with these numbers). Thus, there are total
114 suras (or chapters) in Qur'an.
Medina verses contain the provisions of fighting because it was in Medina
that Mohammad received the green light (read signal) from God to fight the
infidels. So, as a guide we can conclude that the verses with a chronology
order of 87 or more are the replacement for the Meccan verses regarding the
treatment of the unbelievers.
In this short discourse, I shall try to elucidate how we can eliminate the
confusion regarding the 'goodies' from the Islamists and the 'bashings' from
the secularists/freethinkers/infidels.
Please note that the chronology order of the verses are indicated in bold
( ).
We can divide the propagation of Islam by Mohammad in four distinct phases.
1. Peaceful persuasion
2. Fighting for defense
3. Limited attack
4. Open aggression
Phase 1: Peaceful persuasion stage.
Highlights
· A policy of peaceful co-existence with the pagans of Mecca.
· Give and take strategy with the pagans and the hypocrites.
· Jews and Christians (people of the Book) were considered as
friends.
· Mohammad was almost like the Buddha preaching love, forgiveness,
non-violence, and peace.
· Only the pagans of Mecca were considered as enemies (i.e. enemy
list contains only one group).
Important verses
(Note: To save time and space I have given the main messages of the verses
omitting the complete verses. Click HERE if you want to read the complete
verses)
1. Be patient and bear with those who deny the truth; God will deal
with them...73:10, 11 (3)
2. 'To you is your religion, to me is mine'...109:1- 6 (8)
3. Be patient with the evil doers...38:15-17 (38)
4. Show patience to the pagans...20:130 (42)
5. Don't be in a haste to fight...19:83, 84 (44)
6. Be patient with the unbelievers (pagans); God's way will
prevail...20:134, 135 (45)
7. Mohammad is not sent to dispose of people's affairs...17:54 (50)
8. God guides those whom He pleases; rewards will be in
paradise...10:25, 26 (51)
9. God will call into account the pagans who slander the Qur'
an...15:91-93 (54)
10. It is not God's job to see if people believe the truth or not...6:104
(55)
11. Turn away from those rejecting faith and proclaim peace on
them...43:88, 89 (69)
12. Invite the unbelievers (pagans) with beautiful preaching and gracious
arguments; be patient and do not retaliate...16:125, 126 (70)
13. Leave the unbelievers (pagans) alone...23:54 (74)
14. Repeal evil with good deeds...23:96 (74)
15. Leave the unbelievers alone and wait in patience for God to punish
them...52:45, 47, 48 (76)
16. Mohammad is only a warner and not an enforcer...67:26 (77)
Phase 2: Fighting for defense stage
Highlights
· Mohammed along with his handful followers migrated to Medina (622
AD). Some tribes of Medina accepted him as their leader.
· Mohammed and his gang started raids on passing caravans of the
Meccans to acquire the wherewithal for survival.
· Mohammad won the battle of Badr (same year of migration i.e.622 AD)
which bolstered his morale for further raids on Meccan caravans.
· After several years of stay in Medina, God gave Mohammad permission
to launch defensive war.
· Enemies were the pagans of Mecca and the hypocrites (note: the
enemy list includes two groups now).
Important verses
1. Permission to fight for self defense is granted...22:39-41 (105)
2. Rewards for Jihad is announced...22:58 (105)
Phase 3: More defensively aggressive stage
Highlights
· Mohammad expected the Jews of Medina to accept him as their new
Moses.
· The Jews rejected Mohammad as their new apostle.
· Mohammad included the Jews as his enemy and started to raid their
sanctuaries.
· Enemies of Mohammad now were pagans, hypocrites, and the Jews
(note: the enemy list now contains three).
· Mohammad was a little bit forgiving to the defeated Jews. He gave
them a chance to live in their lands provided they paid him fifty percent of
their agricultural produce of land.
· This way Mohammad acquired the means of a guaranteed livelihood for
his horde of soldiers.
· The battle of Uhud (623 AD) was fought. Muslims suffered a severe
beating in the battle.
· The battle of trench (625 AD) took place with huge loss of lives.
Mohammad managed to win this battle.
· Treaty of Hudaibiya (626 AD) was signed with the pagans of Mecca
ensuring ten years of peace. Mohammad was allowed to visit Kaba along with
his followers during the pilgrimage season.
· Battle of Khaibar (627 AD) took place. The Jews lost the battle
and surrendered unconditionally. Mohmmad ordered the beheading of around 700
adult male surrendered Jews and took 17 years old Jewess Safiya as a war
booty and made her his wife.
Important verses
1. Forgive and overlook the unbelieving Jews; God will take care of
them...2:109 (87)
2. Fight defensively the Meccan pagans but if they cease hostility then
stop fighting except for the oppressors...2:190-194 (87)
3. Fighting against the Meccan pagans is prescribed after the passing
of the month of pilgrimage (Zulhaj)...2:216, 217 (87)
4. 'No compulsion in religion'; do not force the defeated enemy to
embrace Islam; but they will be thrown in hell...2:256, 257 (87)
5. Spoils of war belongs to God and Mohammad...8:1 (88)
6. Strike terror in the hearts of the unbelievers; cut the necks and
finger tips of those who oppose God and Mohammad...8:12, 13 (88)
7. When you meet, the unbelievers in hostility attack them and never
turn back from them. If you retreat except for a strategic reason then God
will punish you and will send you to hell...8:15-16 (88)
8. Keep on fighting until the persecution stops and Islam is
established; one-fifth of booty belongs to God and Mohammad...8:39-41 (88)
9. Obey Mohammad, be united and persevere in fighting...8:45, 46 (88)
10. If you defeat the enemy then teach them with treachery and terror; if
they ask for peace then give them peace...8:57-61 (88)
11. Rouse the believers to fight with perseverance, God will help by
increasing your strength...8:65 (88)
12. Continue killing and do not take prisoners until the land is subdued
then enjoy the war booty...8:67-69 (88)
13. Martyr's sins are blotted out and they go to paradise...3:157, 169-171,
195 (89)
14. Can take women captives as concubines in addition to wives...33:50 (90)
15. There is a great reward for fighting against the friends of
Satan...4:74-78 (92)
16. Fight and rouse other believers to fight; God will restrain the fury of
the unbelievers...4:84 (92)
17. Kill the hypocrites if they turn renegades...4:89 (92)
18. Higher grade for fighting for God...4:95, 96 (92)
19. Guaranteed reward for fighting in the cause of God...4:100 (92)
20. Whether a fighter kills or is killed, he is admitted in paradise to
reside there permanently...22:58, 59 (103)
21. Struggle for God's cause...22:78 (103)
22. Can't lag behind in fighting for God...48:15-16 (111)
23. Muslims are compassionate with each other but are strong to fight
against the unbelievers...48:29 (111)
Phase 4: Offensive war or open declaration of attack to spread Islam
This phase is the stage of open offensive war against all the unbelievers.
This phase started in 630 AD after Mohammad re-entered Mecca and captured
Kaba from the pagans. This is the phase, which is currently valid for all
Muslims.
Highlights
· Permission was granted by God to declare offensive war against all
non-Muslims.
· Kill the pagans and humble the Jews and the Christians through
Jizya tax.
· Tabuk expedition (late 630 AD) is the first war against the
Christians.
· The world is divided into two houses, viz. House of Islam (Darul
Islam) and the House of war (Darul Harb).
· All Muslims must fight to convert the Darul Harb into Darul Islam.
· This is the final teaching of Qur'an and so it is valid today and
for future (that is, for eternity).
· Christians are included in the list of enemies (that is, the list
now grows to four).
· Verse 9:5 (also called the verse of the sword) replaces all verses
showing mercy, love, tolerance and forgiveness to all non-Muslims.
Important verses
1. Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable...3:85 (89)
2. Kill (execute by beheading)/crucify/torture who opposes
Mohammad...5:33 (112)
3. Do not make friendship with the Jews and the Christians...5:51 (112)
4. After giving four months notice break all treaties with the pagans
that they did not keep; those treaties with the pagans that they kept are to
be honored to their full term; in future make no more peace treaties with
the pagans and kill all pagans who do not accept Islam...9:1-6 (113)
5. Pagans who accept Islam are brothers of Muslims; those who break the
agreement fight them...9:11, 12, 14, 15 (113)
6. Do not make friend or seek protection from the unbelievers (includes
pagans, hypocrites, Jews and the Christians)...9:16 (113)
7. Unbelievers should not visit mosques or maintain the mosques of God;
they will go to hell...9:17 (113)
8. Those who do Jihad are the highest in rank; they will dwell in
paradise...9:19-22 (113)
9. The unbelievers are unclean, forbid them to enter Kaba...9:28 (113)
10. Fight against the Jews and the Christians until they are subdued and
pay the Jizya tax with submission; God's curse is on them...9:29-31 (113)
11. If you do not fight in the cause of God with whatever you have got then
God will punish you with a serious punishment...9:38, 39, 41 (113)
12. If you fight for God then expect either martyrdom or paradise. The
unbelievers can expect only punishment from God...9:52 (113)
13. Those who are able to fight for God but do not do so are rejected by
God...9:90-96 (113)
14. Whether you slay or slain in Jihad, God has promised paradise for
giving all in the cause of God...9:111 (113)
15. Fight the unbelievers surrounding you...9:122 (113)
So, what do we learn from the above list of Quranic verses? Are you
confused? Of course you are. When the Islamists in the west are drumming,
"Islam is peace. Islam is tolerance. Islam is merciful" who will not be
confused by such contradictory statements! Let me tell you something.
Actually there is no confusion whatsoever if we follow the simple rule on
abrogation.
This simple doctrine of abrogation says that when there are confusions (i.e.
contradictory statements in Qur'an), the later verses abrogate the former
contradictory verses. The result is that only the latest category of verses
remains valid without any doubt. That is why it is so important to know the
chronological order of verses in Qur'an.
Let us hear from a modern translator (Yusuf Ali is too old) of the Qur'an
and Hadith.
"So at first 'the fighting' was forbidden, then it was permitted and after
that it was made obligatory against those who start 'the fighting' against
you (Muslims) and against all those who worship others along with Allah".
(Ref. Introduction section of the English translation of Sahih Bukhari by
Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Medina Islamic University).
In the same section Dr M. Muhsin Khan writes further
, "Then Allah revealed in Sura Bara'at (9) the order to discard (all) the
obligations (covenants, etc.) and commanded the Muslims to fight against all
the pagans as well as against the people of the scriptures (Jews and
Christians) if they do not embrace Islam, till they pay the Jizya (a tax
levied on the Jews and Christians who do not embrace Islam and are under the
protection of an Islamic government) with willing submission and feel
themselves subdued (9:29). So they (Muslims) were not permitted to abandon
'the fighting' against them (Pagans, Jews and Christians) and to reconcile
with them and to suspend hostilities against them for an unlimited period
while they are strong and have the possibility of fighting against them."
Jalaluddin Suyuti wrote Itqan fi 'ulum-il-Qur'an in 1497 AD. This book is
the Tafsir (explanation) of Qur'an and is highly regarded. It is a
compulsory reading for any one who wants to study Qur'an for its 'real
meanings'. His another famous book is Istenbat al-Tanzeel. In this book
Suyuti wrote,"everything in the Qur'an about forgiveness is abrogated by
verse 9:5".
Please read that above quote again if you are really serious about Islam.
Remember that this verse has a chronology order of 113 (Remember? There are
114 suras in Qur'an).
Islamic apologists often quote the following verses to portray the mercy and
forgiveness in Islam.
To you is your religion and to me is mine...109:6
No compulsion in religion...2:256
Turn away from those who join false gods with Allah...15:94
Unfortunately, all those 'goodies' of Qur'an are canceled if we follow the
Tafsir (explanation) of Suyuti and the doctrine of abrogation) regarding the
verse of the sword (9:5).
Islamists love Ms. Karen Armstrong for her siding with them. Ms. Karen
Armstrong writes to fool the non-Muslims in believing what George Bush is
drumming, 'Islam is a peaceful religion'. Any one who has a workable
knowledge on Islamic matters knows for sure that her writings are very
misleading and does not tell the truth at all. When Ms. Karen Armstrong
writes by quoting verse 2:190
"the only permissible war (in the Qur'an is one of self defense. Muslims
must not begin hostilities", (Time magazine October 1, 2001)
she is clearly being dishonest in telling the truth about the phase four of
Islamic war which calls all Muslims to declare a total war on the house of
Harb (i.e. the infidels abodes). Phase four of Jihad is valid until all the
people of the world are converted to Islam. Thus, today's Muslims are in
perpetual war with the infidels whether they (the Muslims) are in an Islamic
paradise like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh (recently included,
previously not), Iran ...or in infidel lands like USA, UK, Canada,
France...etc.
Here is another quote from Alsaylu Jarar (4:518-519) by Al-Shawkani.
Shawkani is a famous writer on Islamic matters. His writings are
authoritative and are used by the Jihadis to justify their merciless
actions.
"Islam is unanimous about fighting the unbelievers and forcing them to Islam
or submitting and paying Jizya tax (protection money for the Jews and the
Christians only) or being killed. The verse about forgiving them are
abrogated unanimously by the obligation of fighting in any case".
Can Ms. Karen Armstrong and other Islamists living in the comfort of
non-Muslim freethinking society refute the above assertion by an eminent
Alim (Islamic scholar)?
Please note that verse 9:5 is a very important verse of Qur'an. This verse
marks the transition from the phase of showing mercy (phase 1) and
forgiveness to the unbelievers to the phase of open aggression on them
(phase 4). As told before, this verse is known as the verse of the sword.
This verse cancels all the verses containing mercy, tolerance, and
forgiveness to the non-Muslims (as many as 111 to 124 verses; you got to
scan the entire Qur'an; anything forgiving, merciful, friendship is out).
Also, note carefully how the chronology order increases as Mohammad turns
from a non-violent (like Buddha) person to a fascist nazi like
Hitler/Mussolini/Osama/Ayatollah. In fact, we can safely conclude that
Mohammad was a saint before the chronology order of the Qur'an was below 87
but he became a fascist dictator after this.
Again note that the chronology order in the final phase of open aggression
against all non-Muslims of the world (phase 4) is almost the end (113)
chapter (sura) of Qur'an (Remember? There are 114 suras in Qur'an).
Is lying allowed in Islam? I must be a nut to ask such a question! Of
course, not, you say. Lying is a great sin in Islam; at least the Islamists
will let us believe this. This is a complete delusion. Muslims are allowed
to tell lies in order to make the religion of Islam rule the world. Would
you not believe me? See for yourself what Imam Ghazali (another supreme
"Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praise worthy aim is
attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to
accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is
possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is
permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible " (Ref: Ahmad Ibn
Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim
Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745).
And what could be the noblest goal of a Muslim than to make Islam rule
world? This is the secret why the Islamists constantly lie about their
religion when they are in West. Because, if they tell the truth, no one
will be attracted to Islam.
Islamists often attack the secularists and freethinkers whenever they
(secularists/freethinkers) quote the offensive verses of the Qur'an by 'out
of context' arguments.
What could be more clear and forceful evidences / proofs than what has been
told above that 'out of context' argument by the Islamic apologists is a
total hoax?
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*A double-faced head represented Janus, a Roman god.
Ya'kub T
2004-10-25 18:34:41 UTC
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Harry
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What's the matter, you Pisslamic Monkey?
Can't face the truth about that murdering paedophile you call a 'prophet'???
or the pagan moon-god called 'allah'.
Post by Ya'kub T
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PGP Moose should be cancelling these posts, and i believe is doing
so (although I've checked with the administrator about that).
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cancellations of articles, even authorized cancellations on moderated
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